=== FOR THOSE IN THE KNOW (AND WHO STUMBLE ACROSS THIS) === imagine saying "opentelecom is surprisingly not dead" despite the fact that, having been a member of the group myself, has had first hand knowledge that the group has been decimated and split off their own separate ways. it's been that way long since december and whatever has been said about it now is just assumptions and speculation. this is the last i will say about this. OT is dead. it has long been dead since the middle of the year. if there's another group from them, i am not nor want to be a part of it. at this point you're all practically gaslighting yourselves about it at this point. thank you for understanding. tl;dr; "is opentelecom dead?": yes. it's been that way for MONTHS. whoever tells you otherwise was either told wrong or are just bluffin'.